The Duck Nuts: Miami's Most Overrated, LeBron Or Reggie

Today First Take posed the questionwhich player is more overrated Reggie Bush or Lebron James?

The impetus for this question came from Reggie Bush's trade today to the Dolphins

The Duck Nuts have their own thoughts on this issue and wanted to share them

Chris: First off Reggie Bush to the Dolphins is a horrible fit. Under Tony Sparano they've been a power running, punch you in the face and take no shit kind of team.

Now to this bogus question that showcases First Take's inability to come up with good questions. This isn't even a debate. Reggie Bush was supposed to be the next O.J. Simpson and he can't even become the starter. Lebron has 2 MVP's.

Alex: You, like that dumb woman, don't understand the question. It's not who was more overrated going into their respective leagues, it's RIGHT NOW who is a more overrated player? NOBODY considers Bush to be a quality running back, MANY PEOPLE consider LeBron to be the best basketball player ever. Bush is not overrated at all, LeBron is incredibly overrated.

Chris: Skip Bayless is the king of idiots and and always will be. Jemele Hill was right in this case.

If the question is framed like you say it is, they why is this even a intriguing question. Jemele Hill handled this question so well because it is so obvious but she was attacked by 2 guys with faulty logic and I would have gone off the deep end.

But if you want me to "understand" the question I'd say this Reggie Bush is still showing he's overrated because a team actually decided to trade for him and see if they could unlock his immense potential and become the starter for them.

Alex: Skip Bayless is an idiot who gives Cowherd a run for his money. But here he is right. Even the impartial host sees the stupidity in Hill's case.

And we don't even know what his trade value is. He isn't worth more than a second round pick because everyone already knows he is a bust.

But he still isn't as big of a disappointment as LeBron. Nobody was giving Bush the "Chosen One" title and nobody expected him to take over the league. Yes he did bust, but nobody has crumbled to pressure of great expectations like LeBron.

NOBODY

Chris: Ok look at your own words

Nobody expected Bush to take over the league. 1st off yes they did after his last year at USC experts thought he would revolutionize the position.

Secondly, everyone expected Lebron to take over the league and HE DID. Yea choke on your own words.

Alex: WHAT!? LeBron took over the league!? Okay, now I know you're joking. It's hard to take over anything when you don't have a single ring. Not one. Last time I checked, Reggie does. I might have to go make a page "Silly LeBron, rings are for Reggie".

Chris: Lebron is the consensus best player in the game

--Lebron had 2 consecutive MVP's

--2nd best court vision in the history of the NBA behind Magic

--1st forward in NBA history to average more than 8.0 assists per game

--Most athletically gifted freak in the NBA's history

--Most unstoppable force going to the hole ever

--Only player in NBA history to average at least 26 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for their career

--One of three players in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists in a season

need I say more!

Alex: I'll take rings. If you want to look at numbers, Wilt is the best player ever. LeBron got most of those numbers for a team whose offense was "give LeBron the ball and hope something good happens".

Chris: Oh and are you realllllllllly going to count Reggie Bush's ring as legit

Thats like congratulating Luke Walton or D.J. Mbenga for his rings

Come on Alex you should know better.

Alex: Silly LeBron, rings are for Adam Morrison

One and Done rule: Is it fair?

ALEX: College basketball is fading away due to the issue of the “one-and-done”. In a perfect world, the rule should state that a player must either enter the draft directly after high school or be two years removed. But this will likely never happen.

The NBA is more than happy with the current system. The rule amendment was made generate hype before a player reached the league. Players coming straight from high school (excluding LeBron James) typically garnered little recognition and were unknowns. A perfect example would be John Wall: last season he had the forth most jersey sales. The NBA is greatly benefiting from the one-and-dones.

NCAA basketball is not doing as well however. A steady decline in attendance, television ratings and popularity has occurred over the past few seasons. Besides “March Madness”, most basketball fans don’t bother to closely follow the game. Traditional powerhouses North Carolina, Kansas and UCLA have failed in the post season because of needing to rebuild year in and year out. In order to save the sport’s popularity, the one and done must be amended.

It seems counterintuitive, but the letting in of would be star players is hurting the strength of the powerhouse programs. Many would argue against this claiming schools like Kentucky reload and succeed every year. And while this is true, few programs are as good at reloading as Kentucky. With teams replacing large portions of their roster each offseason, schools like Butler, George Mason and the likes have been able to sneak their way into the title game.

As much as people love a Cinderella story, fans want to see premiere programs play on the national stage. The NBA is stealing away college basketball fans with the expansion of the league, while college basketball is dwindling away. Allowing players to either play right out of high school or be required to play a minimum of two years, college basketball would see a quick rise in popularity. But unfortunately, this will probably never happen.

Chris: Like my colleague outlines in his piece, the one and done rule should be changed to make players declare straight out of high school or wait two years in college until they are allowed to declare for the draft.

A big reason for this stance is the less recognized academic side of this issue. Derrick Rose didn't even do his own schoolwork in high school so why would he in college; why would the lightbulb switch. Case in point, he had someone else take his SAT to get into Memphis. Rose was a 5 star recruit and likely would have come straight out of high school if it wasn't for the one and done rule. Was it really necessary for him to go to college if he knew he was going to the NBA after one year. And it's not Rose's fault, any regular person would do the same thing. I'm in college and if I knew that one year from now I would be making millions of dollars what would be the purpose of going to an class if I could get 'help' from the University I was 'studying' at. College athletes are supposed to be “Student Athletes” with the word student in the front. But is it really that way? We value the athlete part much more than the student part.

In the one year Kevin Love was at UCLA, he was on the honor roll and maintained a 3.0 GPA. Sounds legit enough but when asked what his favorite class at UCLA was, he answered Sports and Masculinity. Here's a shocker: Sports and Masculinity isn't an actual class at UCLA, he just made it up. Although Love had a good family basis and comes from the upscale Lake Oswego neighborhood in Oregon, he didn't take his academics seriously. If he won't take his academics seriously, why would Derrick Rose, who grew up in the rough south side of Chicago.

Blake Griffin was in the McDonald's All-American Game and went to Oklahoma because of the one and done rule. However, Griffin stayed 2 years at Oklahoma and improved his game until he became the number one pick. If there was no age rule in the NBA, there is a possibility Griffin would have declared for the draft right out of high school and been completely unready for the tough NBA game.

With a talent like Lebron James, who only comes once a generation if that, it would be in his best interest to go straight to the NBA after high school. But for the majority of other players the NBA they aren't ready for the NBA lifestyle. Two years in college would not only mature their games physically but they would also mature mentally and grow up into a productive adult capable of making their own decisions and living the NBA lifestyle.